23.09 shoes ordered received 16.10. Come in a special air bag, relatively diffektov. Due to the fact that the shoes will not was special inserts for noses so they hesitated, but the area can be spread, just right of sandals fasten, certainly not much, but still have if you listen. His usual size 38 (24,5 cm) ordered 8.5, if want more room to make it then do not hesitate to take falling out will not be as remeshek keeps pace. All the shoes very cool despite some shortcomings. Looks really bombicheski, I loved it.